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Insights- Buying Homes in Asheville & Appreciation Rates

Scenario: A Buyer's Broker looks at the dollar difference in a mortgage between a  $90,000 investment property, a doublewideand a stick-built   $135,000 property.  Although the appearance of the properties is similar, (see photos)  she notes differences including an Energy Star Rating on the more expensive property.  The investor/client plans to keep the property for about five(5) years. Neighborhood appreciation rate over that period of time is of serious interest. The difference in mortgage payments between these two properties would be  around $300/month.

 

 

 

 

 

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Discovery: How much and how fast could the properties of interest appreciate ?  Will this offset the difference? Which property could be a wise investment?

Having explained to her clients that she is not a financial analyst/consultant, so it would beyond her scope as REALTOR® to advise in-depth about appreciation rates, the Broker, who is knowledgeable about value-added factors, completes her overview of the situation and  refers her clients to  tax/financial experts as per   Article 11 of the REALTORS® Code of Ethics :

"REALTORS® shall not undertake to provide specialized professional services concerning a type of property or service that is outside their field of competence unless they engage the assistance of one who is competent on such types of property or service, or unless the facts are fully disclosed to the client. Any persons engaged to provide such assistance shall be so identified to the client and their contribution to the assignment should be set forth."

Insights: On first glance, as the client/investor and Broker factored in that in five years the $135,000 property would have to appreciate $18,000 more than another, less expensive, there were a few raised eyebrows. Given the current rate of appreciation in the area, it looked as if the $135,000 would have to appreciate approximately  $3600/year more when compared to the less expensive property.

 But certain  insights are apparent when she looked a little deeper... 

1) in spite of  fluctuations,  stick-built properties have been shown to appreciate (from the base year) at a higher cumulative rate than doublewides...

2)  the purchase of the average home in the sustainable, "green" community, according to research, will yield a higher rate of return on investment than one in the conventional development, despite the nearly 2:1 lot-size differential. The $135,000 property is in such a community. It is in a new development where it appears the goal is to maximize building space and avoid the more land consumptive, conventional housing pattern. This adds up to a higher rate of return on investment.

3) the property is in the Asheville, North Carolina market where home-buyers, speaking in dollar-terms through the marketplace, have demonstrated a growing demand for homes with less land-consumptive attributes, and more "green" advantages. From looking at trends in the  marketplace and those across  the USA this demand to be on the rise.

4) Real estate transactions have proven that the City of Asheville , where both properties are located, continues to be one of the best communities in which to live and work. (named # 1 for investing in Second and Vacation homes)   

5)Property sales continued to be strong during calendar year 2006,.so the likelihood of the trend working in the investor/client's favor is excellent.

6) According the  mortgage loan calculator at REALTOR.com...

$90K at 4.25% = $443.75/mo
$135K      "        = $664.12
                         $ 212 difference

7) We could look for appreciation of about $2,500/year according to an examination of appreciation in the Asheville market as seen at this link

Outcome: Investor bought more expensive property. Would you have? Let me know what you think.

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Comments

Very interesting...  
Posted by Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Colleen Kulikowski (RealtyUSA Williamsville/Clarence) over 2 years ago

Jane Anne - another great post that is a new topic to think about.  I use to be an L/O in Michigan.  Many people put double-wides on property because it was less expensive and many of the people living in these communities were blue-collar workers for small places.

In 2003, many of the lenders decided they would not do loans on "manufactured" housing and as far as I know, people can not purchase existing manufactured nor refinance manufactured homes through conforming lenders.  While a property may appreciate, it's difficult to sell it unless you can find a cash customer or the new buyer is willing to pay a much higher rate for a loan because of limited resources. 

Posted by Cynthia Sloop (Community Association Manager) over 2 years ago
Yep-all of the above reasons would have cemented my decision to buy the stick-built. Great post!
Posted by Leigh Brown Charlotte NC Broker/Owner (RE/MAX Signature Properties) over 2 years ago

JaneAnne-

Love Asheville, I was there this summer!

Absolutely Beautiful!

I present seminars to large groups of investors.

Living here in the SF Bay Area investors sometimes think they have to go out of state to be able to afford the house.  The part of the seminar this refers to is how to have a positive cash flow and buy here in the expensive bay area.

My Co-Presenter, Charlie Krackeler and I show the vastly different appreciation rates (historically) between different housing types, like you have here.

We take it a step further and show the different appreciation rates between an two SFRs, a high quality area and a cheaper questionable area.

Given the same cash flow on both, your ROI is dependent on the better appreciation.  Quality over Quantity - always! 

Mike Mueller

 

Posted by Mike Mueller (Tech and Social Media Consultant) over 2 years ago
Colleen...Coming from you..that's a geat compliment! THX!
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
I definitely would have gone for the stick built house. The doublewide (as least in my area) is personal property with the only thing appreciating being the land. The stick built should with out a doubt payoff better in the 5 year period. Of course I would have to factor in the rents as well.
Posted by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc over 2 years ago
JaneAnne,

Blogs can be entertaining, educational, thought provoking, or a waste of time. This is an excellent example or thought provoking!

 

Well Done!

I hoppe you don't mind I followed up on it at

Recommencing A Single Family Investment

 

Bill

William J Archambault Jr

The Real Estate Investment Institute

http://www.reii.org

 

 

Posted by William J Archambault Jr (The Real Estate Investment Institute ) over 2 years ago

RUN FROM TRAILER PARKS AND TRAILERS AS INVESTMENTS

 

besides don't you know they are magnets for tornado's

 

go sell something....something else

 

CH

Posted by Christopher and Bernadette Hurley (Go Hurley Group) over 2 years ago
Cynthia...To date, there still are a few places where mortgages are available for doublewides here in our neck of the woods. It's a challenge, though. As I think about it, I can imagine affordable housing that is more durable, more attractive to investors, and able to appreciate. You have inspired me . I may do a BLOG on minimalist homes
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
Leigh...How could we design a plan for affordable housing that would also be attractive to investors? That's what I am trying to imagine these days. Any ideas?
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
Very interesting post.  I too would have gone with stick build, douuble wide don't hold value after a certain point.
Posted by Jennifer Fivelsdal, Fishkill NY (Keller Williams Realty Team - Real Estate Agent) over 2 years ago
Mike...Quality over Quantity, for sure. And let us know if y'all are ever in North Carolina doing seminars. In the  meantime, I am wondering how to create a quality product for my client/investors who want to keep their investments in affordable housing. Any ideas?
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago

Bryant...Personal property = mobile home  here in NC It still needs to be licensed. But if it is "planted" /off-frame on the land (as per the doublewide), it is not considered personal property in NC.

Interestingly, a gathering of mobile homes sometimes are  considered good investment fodder. At the end of the life cycle of a the mobile home park, it might be translated into an infill residential project, and be a valuable commodity.

Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
Bill...Thanks for the nod. I will follow-up on your follow-up ;-)
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago

Christopher and Bernadette...I have often wondered about the magnetic attraction of mobile homes and storms, I used to think it was just my imagination, but if you follow storm stories, you must see the stats prove otherwise. What do you think is the cause? As to investment in mobile homes and parks, please see my comment to Bryant.

 

Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
Jennifer..I agree. The only doublewides I know of that have held their value are on the Pacific Coast...and the only reason I am aware of that is that I saw a segment on HGTV about home buyers who chose a doublewide because of its location.
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago

"Quality over Quantity, for sure. And let us know if y'all are ever in North Carolina doing seminars. In the  meantime, I am wondering how to create a quality product for my client/investors who want to keep their investments in affordable housing. Any ideas?"

I'll be back for sure.  My wife is a genealogist and we were back there for two reasons.

The Smith- McDowell house in Asheville had a thing.  (She's a McDowell)

And then we were also back exploring cemeteries in NC and KY.

Digging up dead people can be fun! 

Here's a pic of my daughter and her cousin as we were digging in a family plot in the hills of KY. 

 


Now about the investments.

Differing appreciation rates aside, in most any real estate investment the primary way to achieve real ROI is thru appreciation.

Appreciation takes time.  So you need to be able to buy and hold.

See this post: LINK 

BTW: I'll point out that investing in RE at 100% LTV isn't investing.

As for seminars, I tend to stay in CA.  But who knows?

 

Active Mike

 

 

Posted by Mike Mueller (Tech and Social Media Consultant) over 2 years ago
Really good information. Thanks.
Posted by John Thomas over 2 years ago
Mike...Solid advice..." in most any real estate investment the primary way to achieve real ROI is thru appreciation. Appreciation takes time.  So you need to be able to buy and hold." And I enjoyed the photo!
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
John... Yes..good info and as you read the comments, there is lots to consider, as well.
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
You might consider entering this in the CARNIVAL: The Economics of Real Estate Group
Posted by America's #1 Mortgage Broker/858-777-9751 over 2 years ago
Did you fail to mention that the double wide is on property of a planned highway to be built in 5 years? :^)
Posted by Rob Robinson- Lehigh Valley PA (Bertrum Settlements (Title & Abstract)) over 2 years ago
Brian...Thanks for the nod. I will be sure to look into that! The economics of real estate is a subject we all could find interesting.
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
Hi Rob...OR...it could be subject to eminent domain...or some developer could come along, buy the acreage and relocate the doublewides...lots of sticky wickets...Thanks for the clues...
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago

Sticky wickets - Cricket, I like that.  Good point.

 

 

Posted by Rob Robinson- Lehigh Valley PA (Bertrum Settlements (Title & Abstract)) over 2 years ago
Rob....Yes. Always good to keep an eye out for obstacles along the way. That way possibly they can be remedied before they become a problem.
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago

I can't tell you how many times I go out to appraise a manufactured home and one of the following happens:

  1. The borrower is miffed because the salesperson didn't mention the appreciation rate difference between a manufactured and a stick built home
  2. I have to explain to the borrower that even though the manufactured home is now off it's axels it is and always will be a manufactured home (this becomes a large issue when I have to call the loan officer and break the news to them as well... sometimes tax records do not show these as manufactured homes and so it's a surprise to everyone)
  3. The shock value of having to roll-over that one-time ARM that the manufactured home sales team offers only to find that their interest rates are 2%+ higher than what it would be for a stick-built home (as Cynthia and JaneAnne mentioned)

Although the manufactured homes are made to be more solid, energy efficient and appealing these days, I don't see them ever having the same pull in the market as a stick built home.

 

 

Posted by Sara Goodwin - Portland, Oregon Appraiser (Ashcroft & Associates) over 2 years ago

Interestingly the following just arrived as Board News from the Asheville Board of REALTORS:

 

 

 
Headline:
Modular vs. Manufactured
 
News Detail:
Sometimes it is hard to identify which type of home you are dealing with but there are some general guidelines. If the home was constructed on the lot from ordinary building supplies, it is Site Built. Homes which are brought to the site in large sections are either Modular or Manufactured. That distinction is determined by the labels. If it has a rust colored label on the outside saying that it meets HUD standards and a permanent steel foundation, it is Manufactured. If it has a label inside which says that it meets NC building standards, it is Modular. If the modular has a permanent steel foundation, it is an On Frame Modular. If a modular has a standard wooden floor system, it is an Off Frame Modular.

The NC Real Estate Commission has a good article about identifying a modular vs. a manufactured home at: When Those Homes Coming Rolling In .


Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
Sara...Yes..the shock for folks who buy and then find out later that the home they are invested in may have not appreciate at all....and the shock in terms of loans and financing. I wonder about the responsibility of listing and buyer's agents when it comes to this matter.
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago
John T. ...Possibly speak with your lender before considering investing in a doublewide. Some lenders will not provide loand, some will. Good idea to do your research. 
Posted by Asheville's "GREEN "Property Consultants- LAND & Fine Homes over 2 years ago

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